Debate on Same Sex Marriage (Part 2)

Following last month’s debate on ‘Same Sex Marriage’ where Gavin Barwell MP, claimed that Lillian Ladele the Islington registrar sacked for refusing to conduct Civil Ceremonies, deserved to be fired, yet Muslims working in supermarkets should not have to handle alcohol because they can do other duties instead.

As ridiculous as these claims may be, I decided to investigate and filed a Freedom of Information Request with Islington Council, which resulted in the following response.

Same Sex Civil Ceremonies in Islington

- 5th Dec 2005 to 31st December 2006 - 349
- 2007 - 189
- 2008 - 140
- 2009 - 133
- 2010 - 144
- 2011 - 145
- 2012 to date - 70

Total to date - 1170

Registrars employed by Islington

15 Registrars

These results show that with 15 registrars, it would have been relatively easy for Islington Borough Council, to have allowed Lillian Ladele to carry out other duties and for other registrars to deal with the civil ceremonies.

Debate on Same Sex Marriage

Wednesday 30th May, Gavin Barwell MP, held a public debate on Same Sex Marriages.
There was a good turnout with about two thirds being against changing the meaning of marriage.
Points made were as follows.

For Homosexual Marriage

1. Civil Partnership is already allowed by some churches.
2. People in their 60s and 70s are allowed to get married despite being unable to have children.
3. It would be better for children living in Same Sex households if their guardians were married.
4. Same Sex Marriage was in the Conservative Equalities Manifesto.
5. Some Christians agree with Same Sex Marriage.
6. Being married would promote monogamy and prevent the spread of HIV and Aids.
7. Divorced people have been legally allowed to marry for years, but Churches do not have to conduct the ceremony.

Against Homosexual Marriage

1. Churches could be banned for refusing to conduct Same Sex services.
2. One sex can't take the place of another.
3. Christian's could have their rights taken away, by the European Court of Human Rights. Lawyers believe barring Homosexuals from marrying in churches could be illegal under article 14 of ECHR.
4. Civil Partnership already exists and has the same legal standing as marriage.
5. Christians are already being persecuted, for being against Same Sex Civil Partnerships. E.g. the Registrar sacked for refusing to conduct Homosexual Civil Ceremonies.
6. Catholic adoption agencies are being forced to close for not allowing LGBT's to adopt.
7. It would open the door to further erosion's of marriage (in Holland they allow 3 person marriages and Mexico City allows 2 year wedding contracts where you can not bother to renew at the end)
8. In countries who already allow Same Sex Marriage, people are referred to as partners rather than husband and wife.
9. When Abortion was legalised it was claimed by government that it would hardly ever happen and now people are having multiply terminations.
10. Would be confusing for children having 2 mums or 2 dads.
11. In Sweden the divorce rate for homosexual men is twice the national average, while for women it’s 3 times.

My contribution was that, allowing Same Sex Marriage would encourage more Homosexuals, to move to Great Britain.
With 1 in 12 Homosexual Men in London, having HIV or Aids, this would put a massive strain on the NHS, which is already over stretched by the government going back on their pledge, to not cut its funding. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/nov/29/uk-hiv-testing 

Homosexual Men are statistically a lot more likely to be Paedophiles, than Normal Men. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756

At the end of the meeting Gavin condemned me for mentioning paedophilia but failed to say whether he disagreed with my statistics or just thought it should be brushed under the carpet?

What does it take to get an OBE or MBE these days

The Order of the British Empire was founded by King George V to fill gaps in the British honours system. King George V wanted to honour thousands of people who served Great Britain in non-combatant rolls during the Great War. Since then the honours system has been perverted to honour those who serve against British interests.

It is important to point out that honours are still awarded to a large number of people who do deserve them and that Her Majesty the Queen isn’t responsible for deciding who gets them.

A List of some of the people to receive New Years Honours 2012

Mrs Ansari Durdana OBE, For services to Muslim Women in the UK

Ms Irma Verslyn Heyliger OBE, For services to Black and Minority Ethnic people in Leeds, West Yorkshire

Mrs Sandra Kerr OBE, For services to Black and Minority Ethnic People.

Dr Syed Nayyer Abbas Abidi MBE, for services to the Black and Minority Ethnic community.

Ms Alice Jane Kelly Purnell OBE, for services to Transgender people.

Jeffrey Edward Anthony Dudgeon MBE, for services to the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender community in Northern Ireland.

Ms Jess Wood MBE, for services to Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender and Young People in Brighton and Hove.

Mrs Jane Codona MBE, for services to the Gypsy and Traveller community.

JP Mohammed Akram MBE, services to the British Pakistani community in Scotland.

Miss Pauline Nandoo MBE, Co-ordinator, Southwark Day Centre for Asylum Seekers.

Malcolm John Ozin MBE, for services to the Jewish Community in London.

Mrs Madhurika Patel MBE, for services to the Indian community in Greater Manchester.

The full list of New Years Honours can be found at http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/documents/digitalasset/dg_200711.pdf

and a list of the Honours committees: current members can be found at http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/UKgovernment/Honoursawardsandmedals/DG_176394